they're 'nucking futs' as a good friend of mine likes to say . . .
sweet pea
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I need to vent.
by EmptyInside ini needed to post here to vent.
because, the person i really want to give a piece of my mind to is an elder and my, sometimes, self-righteous brother.
twice in my presence, he brought up cases of sisters marrying unbelievers and how they should be "marked" because of marrying outside the "truth".
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I would like to hear your experiences with being SHUNNED
by jwfacts ini am going to put together a page of short experiences of how shunning has affected exjws.
you do not have to be disfellowshipped, even if you were shunned after being marked or after fading.
all comments are welcome, such as who shunned you, how long since family have spoken to you, what your situation is, why you are being shunned and how it has made you feel.
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sweet pea
I used to read these threads and weep but 3 years later no more weeping but still a deep sadness as to the pain this cult causes.
Immediately Paul and I stopped attending meetings, we watched a succession of friends flipping the lightswitch and closing the door. It was shocking and traumatic at the time. Our best friends told us they couldn't have anything to do with us anymore and one very close friend in particular openly shunned me in the park soon after we left, even though we weren't df'd at the time and our children were playing together as normal (no QFR on how to handle that particular circumstance I guess). I had given birth to our second child at home 8 weeks previously and this friend had been there 10mins after the birth, she was that close. To say this cut to the heart is an understatement. This same friend told me that if I was ever to come back she would be the first one waiting at the end of my driveway with open arms (pure emotional blackmail - like that would ever make me want to return?!!!) So many deep, long friendships lost in a heartbeat.
Paul's family decided to break contact as soon as we started fading too - we were 'bad association' apparently because we no longer idolised the 'Faithful and Discreet Slave (Class)'. Paul's mum has since been in contact, albeit minimally but no word from our children's uncle and aunty these last 3 years (although Paul is reverse shunning her - she's a bit cheesed off about this ironically).
Various other 'acquaintances' opely shunned me at times I was shopping locally to the congregation but, thankfully, since moving to the US these situations no longer arise. However, I still have nightmares (not so frequently but still every now and then) where I'm trying to explain 'things' to my old best friends and their stance is hostile. I usually wake up with tears streaming down my face.
Occasionally I will facebook my old friends (as I am a glutton for punishment/like reminding people I am still alive) but they all treat me like I'm dead, which clearly I'm not.
The irony is that they all think they're the ones that are suffering and that we are the ones who have turned our backs on them.
This issue makes me more angry than the Oil Spill in the Gulf of Mexico and that pretty much has my blood boiling.
And they wonder why we sometimes become bitter after leaving . . .
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WT Dinosaur YouTube Challenge?
by sweet pea in.
seeing as the wts has plagiarized the john william's jurassic park theme song, how about someone (v?
) put together a clip with song 92 (preach the word) playing in the background with all the society's beliefs about dinsosaurs?
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sweet pea
can anybody else help Leo out here?
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WT Dinosaur YouTube Challenge?
by sweet pea in.
seeing as the wts has plagiarized the john william's jurassic park theme song, how about someone (v?
) put together a clip with song 92 (preach the word) playing in the background with all the society's beliefs about dinsosaurs?
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sweet pea
download Song No. 92 from here
http://www.jw.org/index.html?option=QrYQZRQVNZHFVP
and compare with the piano version of the Jurassic Park theme tune here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYsVivtQQXc
you have to admit it's strikingly similar . . .
not sure anyone would have a claim though
perhaps Frank Kavelin could give us his opinion . . .
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Hmmmm What to do?
by cantleave inour old congregation secretary, who i is a really great guy - a true gent, keeps inviting the family round to his house.
it is a gorgeous day here, and he has a really inviting pool.. the trouble is, however much we like him and his family, if i go we know to go will compromise our, to date successsful, rapid fade.. i keep fobbing him off but i am now sounding very lame in responses.. any ideas?.......
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sweet pea
well you didn't tell me he had a used Boxster . . . that changes everything!
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WT Dinosaur YouTube Challenge?
by sweet pea in.
seeing as the wts has plagiarized the john william's jurassic park theme song, how about someone (v?
) put together a clip with song 92 (preach the word) playing in the background with all the society's beliefs about dinsosaurs?
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sweet pea
Seeing as the WTS has plagiarized the John William's Jurassic Park theme song, how about someone (V?) put together a clip with song 92 (Preach the Word) playing in the background with all the society's beliefs about dinsosaurs? Could be entertaining.
Just an idea.
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Hmmmm What to do?
by cantleave inour old congregation secretary, who i is a really great guy - a true gent, keeps inviting the family round to his house.
it is a gorgeous day here, and he has a really inviting pool.. the trouble is, however much we like him and his family, if i go we know to go will compromise our, to date successsful, rapid fade.. i keep fobbing him off but i am now sounding very lame in responses.. any ideas?.......
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sweet pea
Don't go. There's no point. You can't have an honest relationship with these people anymore.
Keep up with "sorry, we've got other plans", pretty soon the invites will stop.
Find some new friends who have a pool .
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Heath Insurance recommendations?
by sweet pea in.
currently we don't have family health insurance here in the us.
could you please recommend a good company/plan that deals with the self-insured?.
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sweet pea
Thank you for all your suggestions so far peoples - it seems like a minefield over here (how I miss the NHS, warts'n'all!).
I checked out Kaiser Permanente and plans for a whole family are anywhere from $500-$1200 per month. Eeek.
Looks like it's going to be a mission to find something reasonable and affordable . . .
Will check out Golden Rule and Assurant (thanks Heartbreaker).
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Heath Insurance recommendations?
by sweet pea in.
currently we don't have family health insurance here in the us.
could you please recommend a good company/plan that deals with the self-insured?.
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sweet pea
Currently we don't have family health insurance here in the US.
Could you please recommend a good company/plan that deals with the self-insured?
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"Life" Brochures: 3 Easy Disproofs
by metatron init may be time consuming and exhausting to correct all of the deceptions, half-truths and out of context quotes contained in the watchtower's new brochures, so i'll make it simple.
here's 3 easy points that disprove all of their nonsense.. 1) australia proves evolution happened - what's the one country in the world with the weirdest animals on earth?
australia!
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sweet pea
Great thread Metatron!